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Two New Dinosaur Species Discovered In Utah?

The Associated Press reports more new dinosaur fossils found in Utah (September 22, 2010). Great!  I love dinosaurs! However, paleontologists always ad [...]


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  1. Jon Richt October 5, 2010 at 8:16 am #

    You would make millions, Kent, if you could show the scientific community that the flood actually explained the evidence.

    The fact that you haven’t done so speaks volumes about why “so many researchers” disagree with your preconceived ideas.

  2. Alfred Russell Wallace October 5, 2010 at 9:40 am #

    Kent you’re not being honest.

    You say yourself that you want to win souls. Millions of theists have no problem accepting that Dinosaurs existed 65 million years ago and beyond. They understand that your idea of Genesis is meant to be allegorical.

    Independent dating methods like Uranium-Lead, Rubidium-strontium, Potassium-Argon are used to determine the age of fossils. Each one gives the corroborating date.

    Carbon dating is NOT used on fossils, since the half-life of C14 has a half-life of only 6850 years and can only be reliably used for ages up to around 27,000 years.

    The Earth is not flat, the earth is not the centre of the universe, and lastly, THE EARTH IS NOT YOUNG.

    To accept that the geological evidence could tells us that the earth is as old as it is, and yet that the earth was actually created 6000 years ago requires your so called “creator” to be a Charlatan.

  3. Joshua Powell October 5, 2010 at 9:58 am #

    I respectfully disagree with the statement that CSE hasn’t tried to connect the flood with the evidence. I believe CSE has put a great deal of time and effort in this area, and has provided enough evidence that satisfies my “need to know” (I’m one of those people who hates being unsure of anything at all. Kinda “ocd” of me, but I very much enjoy knowledge and discovery).

    The fact that he HAS, speaks volumes about the truth of II Pt. 3:3-7, and the “willingly ignorant”. The scoffers are no different than someone with their fingers in their ears, chanting, “I can’t hear you”.

  4. Julie Collins October 5, 2010 at 1:17 pm #

    i am waiting for the atheist dogma of all-knowing human beings to come on here and try to preach as though they know all the mysteries of the cosmos. if they even know what “cosmos” means…

    if dinosaurs are THAT far away from any significant water sources, than they are NOT “millions of years old”, unlike atheist, dinosaurs cannot exist and live without water!

  5. Jon Richt October 5, 2010 at 1:52 pm #

    Joshua, I didn’t say that Kent and CSE haven’t tried. I suggested that they haven’t shown it to be the case – at all. Their best efforts are refuted by people with actual degrees in the field of study being discussed, and even those with only related expertise (physics) poke holes large enough to discredit the ideas.

    No effort is made to address the critique. It’s as if Kent expects his word to be taken on authority alone, and that no one has the power to call it into question.

    That’s not science.

    And that is why Kent’s ideas aren’t scientific, and thus why ‘so many researchers’ ignore them. Kent’s in a position to make history and more money than his bank accounts can handle if he could only show that the Biblical flood idea answers more questions than the problems it causes.

    He hasn’t done so, because he can’t.

  6. Brent October 5, 2010 at 1:54 pm #


    Dr.Hovind knows carbon is both the wrong method and doesn’t work. He makes that clear in his seminars. He lets you know that if you open a modern text book, it says carbon dating proves fossils are thousands of years old.

  7. Brent October 5, 2010 at 1:55 pm #

    ^ I meant “millions and billions of years old.”

  8. Michael Fisher October 5, 2010 at 2:27 pm #

    “He lets you know that if you open a modern text book, it says carbon dating proves fossils are “millions and billions of years old.”

    Um, carbon dating can’t be used on at all on rocks, and that’s what fossils are – rocks.

    Carbon dating can only be used on formerly living organic matter.

    It’s quite good at finding ages for “medium” old stuff in human history, so for example it is very useful in estimating the arrival time of humans in New Zealand (possibly, based on most recent evidence no earlier than 750 years ago, i.e. the 1300′s), and even back through the most recent ice age. Beyond apporx. 20,000 years however there simply isn’t enough C14 left to be useful, IIRC.

  9. Michael Fisher October 5, 2010 at 2:28 pm #

    “…dinosaurs cannot exist and live without water!”

    Quite true. But no one is claiming they lived without water.

  10. Michael Fisher October 5, 2010 at 2:38 pm #

    “I respectfully disagree with the statement that CSE hasn’t tried to connect the flood with the evidence.”


    Where’s the Creationist natural history that provides an account of how Australia and New Guinea ended up with most of the worlds Marsupials, and no placental mammals.

    And how did New Zealand end up with no land mammals of any kind? It did have reptiles and birds and amphibians – but not a single mammal, marsupial or placental, until humans arrived – possibly as recently as only 750 years ago, almost certainly no earlier than 2000 years ago.

    Why/how did Hawaii end up with absolutely no land animals OF ANY KIND – but 41 different genuses of Honey Creepers (birds)? Why are so many native plants of Hawaii found only in Hawaii – and often on only a single island?

    Why are there so many unique marine species around Hawaii? How did THEY get there and no where else?

    Why did South America end up with monkeys with prehensile tails, and Africe end up with monkeys without prehensile tails? Somebody not sharing during the dispersal from, well, wherever all the animals dispersed from?

    Who made sure each isolated spring in the deserts of the American West had its own unique species of pup-fish?

    Etc. etc. etc.

    I’d really like to read that natural history.

    Remember, it has to take into account the discoveries regarding human migration patterns learned as a result of the human genome project.

    I’ll be patiently waiting for that comprehensive natural history.

  11. Nigel McNaughton October 5, 2010 at 4:02 pm #

    Brent could please give us a specific example of a modern text book that says carbon dating proves fossils are millions and billions of years old?

  12. David McCrea October 5, 2010 at 5:15 pm #

    Without being disrespectful to anyone, I keep trying to wrap my head around the idea of anything being billions of years old and still being, well, FUNCTIONAL.

    How is it possible for the universe and the earth to be billions of years old and still have its order, mass and energy? How is it possible for the earth to still be orbiting the sun and still revolving around its axis? How can the sun still be producing just the right amount of energy to create and maintain life over such a vast amount of time and from such a (comparatively) vast distance from the earth?

    I can’t even comprehend how long 1 million years is let alone 3.5 to 20 BILLION years. What, other than our universe and planet apparently, has ever lasted for that length of time and not only survived but improved over time?

    The cosmic “clock” keeps running right on schedule. Who created the clock and who or what has kept it wound and ticking for all these billions of years?

    Does anyone know DEFINITIVELY or are we just working off assumptions and SWAGS?

    I’m sincerely curious about these issues and questions, and again I want to stress I’m not trying to start an argument.

  13. Edward Super October 5, 2010 at 7:46 pm #

    To Jon Richt:

    Having read so many notes like yours over the years, it is hard not to believe your “slip” is showing. Having worked in informations systems for many years in my career as an analyst, it would not matter if you had trillions of years at your disposal, code of any type will not develop by chance to produce our dinos. Time is the enemy and not the savior and that is a fact. When others have suggested that is just a few millionn years to get from an ape like beast to a man and that you could get enough mutations (over 5 million I have read) in just the right direction and spread throughtout enough of the gene pool….well “it ain”t gonna happen baby” (pardon my slang). People will assert such things with the seriousness of a heart attack but when pinned to lab or blackboard to show how all this can work out, all of a sudden the bravado disappears. This is exactly what I experienced time and time again and most recently when i wnt to the Uof T DNA lab at the royal ontario museum at Toronto.

    Dear Kent Hovind: Thank you so much for not only your work in creation science which has blessed all our family but also your character under the most trying circumstances. It is nice to know there are still some heroes of the faith. I am nowhere near you but am working on it. Your videos on “first love” and “4 kinds of workers” are so challenging and uplifting.

    BTW, there is a book “World Wthout Cancer”. Do you still enndorse this? someone from your ministry can respond. I am starting to read this and was curious if there were any updated thoughts. I realize you sadlly lost a family member to this dreaded disease. I am not looking for certain cure all info and am not afflicted with this (so far). thank you. Edward

  14. Alfred Russell Wallace October 5, 2010 at 9:37 pm #

    “if you open a modern text book, it says carbon dating proves fossils are thousands of years old.”

    Name the textbook that makes that assertion.

    Name it.

    Independent corroborated dating techniques are used to determine ages of fossils.

  15. Jack Napper October 6, 2010 at 3:31 am #

    “It never ceases to amaze me that so many researchers can find so many dinosaur fossils so far from any significant water supply, yet ignore that the area had to have been covered by water that suddenly buried the dinosaurs.”

    Yeah, it couldn’t be the geology shows things weren’t as they are today. Heck, human development including the Army Corps of Engineers have diverted numerous waterways in only the last half-century. What you got to say about that, Kent?

    “They still do not see that the best way to explain all these fossils is Noah’s flood! Peter warned us that the scoffers in the last days would be willingly ignorant (dumb on purpose) of God’s creation, the flood and the coming judgment.(II Pt. 3:3-7).”

    If only that were the case here.

    “Fossils don’t form at all unless the animal is buried quickly before it can rot or be torn apart by scavengers.”

    Well we know this isn’t true in all cases. Heck you can fossilize a BOOT (yeah that was kinda low) if you hang it below a waterfall. Rapid burial is not the only way thing fossilize. Nice try though.

    “Thousands of animals die every day yet, as far as we can see, none are being fossilized.”

    So you sit and stare at roadkill for days on end?

    The very fact that the earth is filled with billions of fossils (including clams on top of Mt. Everest— in the closed position! See Seminar #6) testifies loudly of God’s judgment on the world 4,400 years ago in Noah’s flood.

    Two things. 1.) Clams DO NOT always open when they die. Still recycling myths I see. 2.) Everest used to be sea floor. See: PLATE TECTONICS!

  16. Mike Ayala October 6, 2010 at 6:00 am #

    Hi David,

    Genetic Entropy is one of many fatal death blows to all biological evolution. The DNA transcription error rate combined with the human mutation rate are startling to anybody who even half-way understands them, so much so, that evolutionists object to their findings, not because they are not true, but because the implication is so clearly obvious that the human species could not have and will not survive for any great length of time, and the time requirements taught in biological evolutionary dogma are technically ridiculous and unrealistic.

    Evolution will not survive the genetic revolution!

    That is a great question you asked. The erosion rates observed indicate that the earth is not as old as evolutionists claim because observation and evidence indicates (if one holds to the Lyellian Uniformitarianistic mantra) the earth should be fairly rounded and smooth and the mountains should have been eroded away a long time ago.

    God bless you.

    Mike Ayala

  17. Joe Shlabotnik October 6, 2010 at 6:24 am #


    “……if dinosaurs are THAT far away from any significant water sources, than they are NOT “millions of years old”

    You have a gross misunderstanding of geology and plate techtonics.

    The north American plate on which these fossils reside was located near the equator around 65 million years ago when these fossils were laid down.

    The North American plate continues to move westward.
    In the last 65 million years as the plate moved north and westward many different conditions existed as shown by the geologic column.

    There were many inland seas that have covered over, mountain ranges have come and gone. Where I live in PA, 1400 feet beneath the ground is the remnants of a vast seashore that existed millions of years ago.

    The dinosaur fossils of North and South Dakota were formed in a tropical climate millions of years ago when the land they are on was at the equator.

    If you take some time to actually study geology, you would me amazed at the actual formations on the earth and how they came into being over the eons.

  18. Ryan Renfro October 6, 2010 at 6:27 am #

    I’m not going to weigh into this argument because it’s not even really the big argument. What I have learned in the last 6 months of arguing for creation with evolutionist is that I could argue with any evolutionist till I was blue in the face, provide them with all sorts of evidence, and they still wouldn’t believe because they really don’t want to believe… in God (the scoffers in the last days would be willingly ignorant). That is the big argument; God not creation.
    Evolution provides an out of them so that they can do what they think is right, not what God says is right. Until they come to a point in their lives where they are truly looking for truth they are never going to hear what we say. You might as well be yelling at a wall.
    This is not to say that we shouldn’t have an answer by any means.

    1 Peter 3:15
    “But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,”

    “to give an answer to everyone WHO ASKS” These folks aren’t asking they just want to MAKE you believe what they believe to validate themselves. I believe CSE is a great tool for believer to learn the truth but of little or no use to bring folks to the truth of Christ.
    God bless all of you out there that are willing to argue with evolutionist about creationist but know that all this tends to do is but their backs up and make them even more unwilling to listen to reason(no one likes to be wrong).
    Now for my sisters and brother in Christ who still believe in the lie of evolution. I used to believe the same as you. Somehow God used evolution or people were too dumb to understand who the world was made. Then one day I went to a Bible class that showed Dr Hovind’s videos and I was astounded by what I learned and the flaws in my own logic. But I couldn’t just take it on what he said either so started looking into some of the things he said a pointed out and I was amazed at what I found.
    Listen brothers and sister either the WHOLE Bible is the God inspired and protected Word of God or not. If you believe it is then find out the truth. If you don’t then you have a big problem with your religion and God. Take it up with Him.

  19. Joe Shlabotnik October 6, 2010 at 6:48 am #

    David McCrea,

    One million is not that hard to conceptualize.
    Think of a sports stadium that holds 50,000 people. Then think of 20 of thise stadiums side by side each other.

    You might think of everyone in those twenty stadiums wearing a white shirt except for one person wearing a red shirt. He’s one in a million. Now think how long it would take to find him. It would talke a while, but could be done.

    You might take the diameter of a ping pong ball and the volume of a railroad car and calculate how many balls would fit into one car, and thus how many cars to hold a million balss. Not as many as you might imagine.
    Conceptualizing large numbers is a very interesting exercise.

    Then you ask, “How is it possible for the universe and the earth to be billions of years old and still have its order, mass and energy? How is it possible for the earth to still be orbiting the sun and still revolving around its axis? How can the sun still be producing just the right amount of energy to create and maintain life over such a vast amount of time and from such a (comparatively) vast distance from the earth? ”

    I am absolutely sympathetic to your question. I love that question. Come and hang around with me for about a year or two and I’ll put that all in perspective for you!!!!

    Personally, I started asking that question when I was about nine years old and I am still asking the question, though I have far mor answers than questions after studying the existence of the universe now for about fifty years, formally and informally!

    Basically though large bodies hurtling through the vacuum of space posess massive amounts of kintetic energy. The laws of inertia keep them going and spinning. As stars are born and die and explode they create more massive bodies and impart Kinetic energy into them. Of course gravity is what holds planetary, star, and galactic systems together.

    When I get back to my laptop I can send you some links to get you started but there are tons of information available to you on the internet these days, but if you get the chance, take a course in physics at a local community college. Follow that up with a course in astronomy and geology. The journey is long, but it starts with one step.
    If you think you don’t have the money to take such a course, I may be able to help you get some funding. It is available to all if you look for it.

    The study of the universe and the natural laws that shape it are most exquisite and interesting study of all.

    You can strart with simple searches such as “what keeps the earth revolving”
    How are stars formed
    How was the earth formed

    Good luck in you studies!

  20. Mike Ayala October 6, 2010 at 10:08 am #

    Hi Edward,

    You are so right. Information theory provides another fatal death blow to biological evolution.

    The interesting thing I’ve noticed is the evolutionists do not want to touch the topics of genetics and information theory. Rather, they wish to focus on largely unverifiable or hard to verify topics. Information theory on the other hand is right on our finger tips every time we submit a post or send an email. The canned food industry depends the verifiable fact that evolution is not true. Moreover, we are in the midst of a genetic revolution, and evolutionists are too blind in their passions to recognize the impossibility of their unsupportable position.

    If you noticed on this site, the evolutionists are forced to philosophize because they cannot produce any verifiable evidence of a scientific nature that can stand the slightest scrutiny. They are really a rather pitiful lot because they do not have the peace of God, and they are compelled to try to defend evolution so they can live as the god of their own life.

    Evolution is based on an 1850’s ignorance of information theory, microbiology, metabolism, and genetics. What may have sounded plausible 150 years ago to a world unaware of the miracle of the information of life is today like cartoon fantasies.

    Dr. Loraine Day has much to say about cancer. She survived an horrific tumor which can be viewed.

    God bless you, and thank you for your post.

    Mike Ayala

  21. Michael Fisher October 6, 2010 at 2:05 pm #

    “The erosion rates observed indicate that the earth is not as old as evolutionists claim because observation and evidence indicates (if one holds to the Lyellian Uniformitarianistic mantra) the earth should be fairly rounded and smooth and the mountains should have been eroded away a long time ago.”

    Um, Lyell is what, almost 400 years behind the times?

    Lyell had never heard of, much less incorporated into his geology, plate tectonics.

    You DO realize that using Very Long Base Line Interferometry and GPS satellites that the rate and direction of movement of the plates has been directly measured — and the direct measurements are in accord with geological theory.

    And yes, entire mountain ranges HAVE eroded into the sea – only to be lifted up again.

  22. Nigel McNaughton October 6, 2010 at 5:00 pm #

    Again Mike that’s bunk. The thing is the last few times I responded to your false assertions I got a page of random off topic stuff, and then the last time you on and on about how jealous I was of Darwin? Or was that David?

    Are you familiar with a webpage called “The Longest Running Falsehood in Creationism”?

    It documents 190 years of People like yourself claiming ‘Naturalism/Evolution is going to fall any day now!”

    It’s quite an amusing read.

    Your whole post was just grand standing. If you cared to you could look up research papers on new Gene formation. Already on this blog we’ve discussed new genes formed from randomized DNA.

    You can look up experiments that disprove your assertions on genetic entropy. There are some great videos by cdk007 on YouTube graphing it out. I believe “How Evolution REALLY Works, Part II ” is the video I am thinking of.

  23. Mike Ayala October 6, 2010 at 7:27 pm #

    Hi Michael Fisher,

    Nice to meet you.

    If you don’t like Lyell’s thoughts about Uniformitarianism, then you would be wise to dismiss them for what they are, speculation.

    The issue is not about plate tectonics, but rather time. The whole basis of evolution, whether it is of the universe or life on earth is a matter of time – the very thing for which Lyell’s Uniformitarianism was created – to make a case for millions of years to cast doubt on the word of God. Lyell had an objective to discredit the Bible. The only folks who willingly believed him were other folks who wanted to escape accountability from God and His word. They then built upon Lyell’s speculation to deliver to us the evolutionary dogma we have today – both cosmic and biological evolution. The type of cosmic evolution you espouse is based entirely upon Lyell’s speculation.


    I thought you would be infinitely more interested in Genetic Entropy since it is much closer to home and directly affects you and any children you may have. The Human Mutation Rate and the DNA transcription error rate are as subtle to evolutionary dogma as someone getting hit by a fast moving freight train. Evolution is intellectually undefendable.

    Natural selection is taught by evolutionists to be a creative force designing life. Natural selection designs nothing and creates nothing. Evolutionists have used natural selection as a magic wand with the uninformed to baffle them with blindness.

    Natural selection is merely responsible adaptation within the very tight confines of the code of life housed in and executed by the DNA molecule. (What a marvel of engineering!). Natural selection neither creates new information nor does it manipulate or execute any information.

    The Human Mutation Rate causes natural selection to have increasingly less information from which to select. The rate of mutation from generation to generation is extremely conservative at 100 – 200 per generation – a rate at which humans will not survive many thousands of generations.

    Natural selection only slightly mitigates against the Human Mutation Rate. Natural selection can only use the DNA left over after the Human Mutation Rate has metaphorically stomped on it. The human species is not evolving upward – it is in a freefall toward extinction!


    Michael, evolution is intellectually undefendable.


    We have no hope in this world or in the temporary lusts the world has to offer. The Bible offers the only credible hope to mankind – the resurrection as promised by Jesus:

    “This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but raise it up at the last day.

    And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

    God bless you Michael with wisdom and discernment.

    Mike Ayala

  24. Melody Pate October 6, 2010 at 9:44 pm #

    I don’t believe anyone should get the right to post until they’ve seen the ENTIRE Creation Series. And have taken notes as they watch. Study and observe like a real scientist before making ignorant comments. Check out the oodles and oodles of references included. Dr. Hovind isn’t trying to pull anything over on anyone. He’s very thorough in his research and presentations.
    Also…life is more than mere matter. We are all physical beings, but also emotional beings, intellectual beings, and spiritual beings. We can’t just study the make-up of objects. We also have to consider the entire entity. Incorporate all aspects of life, like character, faith, personality, and so on…before stomping our footsies and folding our arms across our chests in stubborn defiance of the big picture.
    If there is a God, He created. He created with wisdom and purpose and creativity and skill and awesome foresight…and love! If it’s all by chance…all by accident…better to believe the “religious” lie and have hope of a better tomorrow, then face the bitter truth of chaos and purposelessness. I don’t want to just know about matter and its existence…I want to EXIST AND MATTER!

  25. draganglas@eircom.net October 7, 2010 at 1:47 am #


    @Edward Super
    “Having worked in informations systems for many years in my career as an analyst, it would not matter if you had trillions of years at your disposal, code of any type will not develop BY CHANCE to produce our dinos.”

    And that’s where you’re incorrect – it is not “by chance”.

    It would be better to think of the cosmos as “guided probability”, from start to finish.

    The laws of physics govern what forces and particles can exist, which in turn determine what chemical elements (and their properties) can exist, which in turn governs what sort of chemical reactions – including biochemical – can occur, etc, etc.

    Anything whose existence depends on a pre-existing phenomenon is not due to “(random) chance”.

    As an aside, I’d be interested to know exactly which date of Creation the editors of this site are promoting as the “true” age of the cosmos and/or Earth.

    Kindest regards,


  26. draganglas@eircom.net October 7, 2010 at 1:50 am #


    Why is this site displaying my email address??

    Kindest regards,


    • CSE October 7, 2010 at 8:16 am #

      It displays everyone’s email address so that people can contact each other if they wish.

  27. H. Bosma October 7, 2010 at 8:23 am #

    @ CSE
    That’s a violation to our privacy. And not true

    Your display name and mailaddress are probably mixed up (you filled it out wrong, or something else went wrong.
    Click on your displayed name in “add your comments here”
    Then click edit and you’ll be able to change your details.

    • CSE October 7, 2010 at 8:27 am #

      @ H. Bosma

      My bad. I don’t usually look at the main page that you see – I am always on the administrators page. You’re right, they are not displayed.

  28. James Burke October 7, 2010 at 8:55 am #


    H. Bosma, thank you for your reply,

    However, it doesn’t show a “Edit” option – just my browser’s standard context menu. I did log into My Account, but that only allows changing the password.

    It seems the only way I may be able to correct this is to email CSE and request that they make the necessary changes themselves.

    Unless CSE uses the name at the bottom of this email and edit my account, please…!?

    Kindest regards,

    James Burke

  29. James Burke October 7, 2010 at 8:59 am #


    I must confess that I didn’t read the “Commenting Rules” prior to registering – I note one of the requirements is “Must include a valid first and last name”.

    Might I suggest that the administrator(s) make it the first and last name fields in the registration form required? That way, my error won’t be repeated by someone else…

    Kindest regards,


  30. Mike Ayala October 7, 2010 at 4:48 pm #

    Hi James,

    You sent a very interesting post. Let’s think it through just a little bit.

    Firstly, today with all the technology we have at our disposal, we cannot even begin to design a code from scratch to produce dino’s, and that’s not even considering all the necessary hardware to implement the code. If you think it could happen without added intelligence and vectored power, (or by random chance in common parlance), then you most likely are not aware of just how complex the code of life is, how complex the machinery that stores, manipulates, and executes that code is, and how complex are the protein structures that form the infrastructure of living organisms. It is all way beyond awesome, and we all too often all take it for granted.

    Even with the technology we do have, we still know relatively very little about DNA and its code even though we can observe it at will. Just the unkinking of the kinks of the DNA molecule to enable RNA transcription is breathtaking, and we haven’t a clue what controls the process.

    Secondly, you have a very good point about guided probability. Randomness is not random in the way that it is commonly understood precisely because the forces of creation are acting in concert together to cause “random” events to take place. The interesting part of that is that in order for there to be guided probability, there needs to be a guide, and in this case it is the Creator of heaven and earth.

    You mentioned the laws of physics as being the guide, but in order for laws of physics to exist, there must needs be space, matter, and time – all three which Scripture reports were created by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The laws of physics you observe and recognize are the properties of the creation. The laws do not create – they merely are how we describe the properties of creation.

    I hope this opens your eyes even just a little bit to see how awesome God’s creation is so that you might appreciate our Creator for His grace and kindness.

    God bless you with wisdom and understanding.

    Mike Ayala

  31. James Burke October 7, 2010 at 4:52 pm #


    Thank you!

    Kindest regards,


  32. Mike Ayala October 7, 2010 at 5:00 pm #

    Hi Nigel,

    With all due respect, please get current on genetics. It is not very hard to do these days.

    As far as Darwin goes, if you did not promote and try to defend with ideological tooth and claw Darwin’s ideas about evolution and all the ideas based on Darwin’s thoughts about evolution that have developed since his day, then I would not ever have been compelled to say a single word about Darwin.

    Darwin was wrong about natural selection. Darwin promoted natural selection as a designing force, when in reality all natural selection does is help an organism to adapt to its environment within the confines of the genetic code found in the organism. Natural selection helps to preserve a species, but it certainly does not create the species. Adaptation is not evolution. Adaptation is a designed feature of the code of life that helps the organism to disperse into a variety of environments.


    Concerning Darwin and genetics, even Darwin was afraid acknowledging of Mendel’s works. When Darwin died, a copy of Mendel’s writing were found on his desk, so at least by the end of his life, Darwin knew of Mendel and his findings. It tells all that Darwin did not incorporate Mendel’s works into his theory of evolution, for he could not – Mendel’s works totally contradicted Darwin’s speculations on inheritance. Do you remember gemmules and pangenesis?

    Darwin proposed purpose driven inheritance that would respond to need, whereas today we know inheritance is passed on genetically. Darwin proposed inheritance that could morph one species into another when what we know today is the code of life is passed on to progeny from parent, and that code does not change except through mutations. Darwin’s natural selection was based upon mutations adding information, whereas we know today that mutations are a loss of information – broken genes. Mutations are equivalent to ripping pages out of the book of life – not adding information.


    The only support evolution has today is by ideologically bound academics and those fooled by them, or those who are blackmailed into supporting evolution that they might keep their jobs. The natural sciences know nothing about evolution.

    Genetic Entropy is very real, Nigel. Right now you are a bag of genetic mutations which are killing you. Depending on your age, you may already be aware of some of the effects of mutations and DNA transcription errors in your body. Please reconsider the motivations of your heart why you reject God’s account of creation in the Bible before the accumulated mutations complete their work in you.

    God bless you.

    Mike Ayala

  33. James Burke October 8, 2010 at 7:11 pm #


    @ Mike

    “The interesting part of that is that in order for there to be guided probability, there needs to be a guide, and in this case it is the Creator of heaven and earth. ”

    With all due respect, that is a non sequitur.

    To declare that the needed guide is (must be) the Creator does not follow.

    According to cosmologists’ current understanding, space, time and matter are the result of the “Big Bang” – or “Big Expansion”, to give it a more correct title.

    I do agree that what are called “laws” are deduced from scientific observation of patterns and relationships in Nature.

    And I’d be interested in a reply to my earlier question, if you don’t mind: what is the site editors’ date for Creation? And on what do they base it?

    Kindest regards,