This is a rush transcript from the “Creation Today Show,” released October 14, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

Overview

In this episode, hosts Eric Hovind and Paul Taylor answer viewers’ questions regarding dinosaurs, the earth’s magnetic field, and aliens. Be sure to tune in and receive an abundance of information regarding these topics. Who knows, you may learn something you didn’t know before

Transcript

Eric Hovind: From the CTN Studio in Pensacola Florida, this is the Creation Today show, with Eric Hovind and Paul Taylor.

Paul Taylor: And we’ve got a packed show today, we’re gonna be talking about whether or not a giant asteroid killed off all the dinosaurs. That should be fun to find out about. We’re going to be learning about Earth’s magnetic field

Eric Hovind: Glad we have that

Paul Taylor: And we’re going to be talking all about aliens and UFO’s and what they are.

Eric Hovind: This show is gonna be out of this world. Just so you know we believe the Bible is literally true and scientifically accurate in every single detail, and we’re not ashamed to say so. So thanks for joining us, we’ll be back right after this.

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Eric Hovind: Welcome back to Creation Today, we’ve got a couple announcements for you. If you have not heard, we are doing a proof of God conference in Orlando Florida, in  let’s see, second weekend of October. So if you’re available to hang out with the big rats down there in Orlando., you know who that is, right, Mickey Mouse [laughter] calling him the big rat, come on  down and join us for the Proof of God conference. Gonna have some great speakers there, aren’t we

Paul Taylor: It’s gonna be great. I’m afraid Mickey Mouse is not speaking at the conference, no. But there’s gonna be some absolutely first-rate speakers, and  then there’ll be you and me as well Yes.

Eric Hovind: That’s correct. We’ve got Carl Kirby from Reason to Hope Ministry.

Paul Taylor: That’s right, we’ve got Mark Spence from livingewaters.com

Eric Hovind: And  Sye Ten Brueggencate of proofthatgodexists.org along with Paul Taylor and myself, and  several other creationists are gonna be there talking about the proof of God. How do we defend our faith. So looking forward to doing that in Orlando. Also, we’re moving forward with this Genesis series project.

Paul Taylor: That’s very very exciting indeed, where we’re going to be having an animated film, which is going to be in 3D animation of the first three chapters of Genesis, that’s gonna be great.

Eric Hovind: It’s really gonna be incredible. You can check that out at genesisseries.com, and of course the Proof of God conference can be checked out at proofconference.com.

Paul Taylor: And of course while we’re talking about proof of God, then we should mention that of course there’s going to be the DVD series, which hopefully may be available by then,

Eric Hovind: Yeah

Paul Taylor: Or soon after at least. So that’s gonna be very exciting as well, with a very interesting speaker on that, so, on that program called Eric Hovind.

Eric Hovind: Yeah, so we’re writing and developing right now the proof of God small group curriculum coming next year. So looking forward to that. Well, we’ve got several questions here I wanna get into. First question is from James. James, thanks for writing into Creation Today. It says: “I was reading the Yahoo News, and saw these scientists have confirmed that a  giant asteroid hit the earth and killed all the dinosaurs. They say that they have evidence. What do you make of it? Just wondering what your take would be. “

Paul Taylor: I think almost before we start to go into the details of what they, what any particular news story might say, it’s worth commenting on the use of language, isn’t it? Like a vague suggestion, or an idea from somebody becomes a realistic possibility

Eric Hovind: Confirmation yeah

Paul Taylor: And eventually confirmation that they’ve definitely got it [Laughter].  Definitely got it, does that mean they’ve sent some camera man back through a [indiscernible 00:03:31] or something. Sorry that’s a British TV reference

Eric Hovind: I know what you’re talking about

Paul Taylor: But have they taken film of the actual meteorite hitting the earth, I know I’ve seen the cartoon film

Eric Hovind: The cartoon version of it, yes.

Paul Taylor: Yeah so I mean that proves it. You saw that meteorite

Eric Hovind: As long as you see it on TV,

Paul Taylor: Yeah

Eric Hovind: That proves it

Paul Taylor: It is, yeah.

Eric Hovind: But that’s exactly what’s happening here is you have individuals that are making a slight suggestion, this could have, too, somebody else taking that suggestion and saying it probably did, too, by the time it hits the news media saying “they’ve confirmed it! This has happened, this is really what’s taken place”

Paul Taylor: Yeah

Eric Hovind: And that’s a far cry from the truth

Paul Taylor: It is, and of course if you look at these sort of science news, you’ll know that not every evolutionist even believes this  these days. The idea hasn’t been around very long anyway. Obviously I’m very very old, and I remember that when I was in school, they didn’t teach this, because this idea hadn’t been developed then. It was developed in the early 1980’s, so when I was at school, this idea hadn’t come about. They taught, I was actually taught a number of things.  One was I was taught that dinosaur eggshells must have started to become very thin so these nasty little mammals must have come along eating the egg yolks away [Laughter]

Eric Hovind: Cracked them easier, I’ve heard that

Paul Taylor: But another one was that all the dinosaurs had starved to death. Still another idea was that actually they’d overeaten [Laughter]. And so the last dinosaur died of a huge amount of wind, because it had eaten far too much.

Eric Hovind: That’s exactly, that’s what I heard. The latest one was a scientist from India suggesting that they’ve killed themselves off because of their own flatulence. [Laughter] Causing the methane to be just an enormous amount on planet earth that it created a greenhouse effect and it  heated up the earth and the dinosaurs just couldn’t stand the heat, that’s what he said.

Paul Taylor: It’s no wonder that on Jurassic Park they were roaring.

Eric Hovind: Yeah [Laughter]. Well, what made the dinosaurs go extinct? We get that question all the time.

Paul Taylor: Yes

Eric Hovind: I don’t even like the question. We’ll get to the comment idea, but the question has a, some assumptions in it. What we all can refer to as presuppositions.

Paul Taylor: That’s true.

Eric Hovind: They’re assuming something just by asking the question, aren’t they?

Paul Taylor: Yes, I mean how do they even know that dinosaurs actually are extinct?

Eric Hovind: That’s a very good question.

Paul Taylor: I mean I suspect that they possibly are, I mean I’ve never seen one personally [indiscernible 00:05:43].

Eric Hovind: Me neither

Paul Taylor: So, you know

Eric Hovind: Seeing pictures of ones that people claim are dinosaurs, and I’m going interesting stuff.

Paul Taylor: Yeah, exactly, it’s fascinating. I’m really not prepared to say that dinosaurs actually are extinct. As I said I’ll go so far as to say  I think they probably are, cause I haven’t seen any, but they have gone extinct, it’s only fairly recently. You know, you can certainly find historic accounts of people having seen what they might refer to as dragons.  Even as recently as two hundred years ago, there’s an account of a civil war battle, sorry I should make clear, English Civil War [Laughter], not the American Civil War, the English Civil War battle, the battle of [indiscernible 00:06:21] which although is in the English Civil war actually took place in Wales. And after the battle in which there were a lot of people dead on the battlefield, there are some eye witnesses who wrote about it at the time, who reckon that this large huge bird without feathers, this dragon type thing, swooped over the battlefield and was sort of it was obviously [indiscernible 00:06:42] eating thing it was having [indiscernible 00:06:44] of dead bodies, a rather gruesome story but the description sounds very alike a Pterodactyl type

Eric Hovind: You know it’s very interesting, I met a woman after hearing, after hearing reports of a Pterodactyl type animal in Kenya of Africa. I met a woman in the airport, and she’s from Kenya, and I said “Hey, I just got a question. I have heard reports of big bat-like creatures, Pterodactyls. Have you heard of those?” She’s like oh yeah, they’re over there.  And she talked about it as if it was normal everyday stuff. It wasn’t a crazy thing. I believe they call it Kongamato.  And here’s what’s interesting, the people over there say Kongamato favorite thing to eat is dead rotting human flesh.

Paul Taylor: Yes

Eric Hovind: And if you bury somebody, you have to bury them very deep in the ground, cause otherwise Kongamato will come dig them up and eat them.

Paul Taylor: It makes sense. Of course this side of the Atlantic you’ve got the Native American accounts about the Thunder Bird

Eric Hovind: Of course, yep.

Paul Taylor: Which were not necessarily sort of little rockets and airplanes [Laughter] with metals falling out, and

Eric Hovind: No large animal that fell from the sky they said because it got struck by lightning, was the legend of the Thunder Bird

Paul Taylor: Absolutely which is absolutely fascinating. So, you know, the idea of dinosaurs dying out. In fact the word dinosaur was invented to describe a class of large, unknown, previously unknown creatures that were no longer around

Eric Hovind: Yep

Paul Taylor: So that talk about why they died out is actually a bit of [indiscernible 00:08:10]-otology, that’s what the word was invented to describe. But you know there’s this idea that there was a meteorite, a large meteor hitting the earth, causing an enormous amount of dust that killed off all the animal all the dinosaurs, but somehow the really sensitive animals like butterflies and frogs, they survived.

Eric Hovind: They made it through that. [Laughter]

Paul Taylor: Yeah, which is absolutely incredible, isn’t it?

Eric Hovind: That is pretty funny. So, this idea of an asteroid hitting in the Yucatan or Yucatan peninsula, tomato tomato, I don’t know how you say it. How do you..

Paul Taylor: The way you say tomato..

Eric Hovind: Oh, ok [Laughter]

Paul Taylor: I’m sorry, I don’t know how it’s pronounced. I know that there’s this word beginning with a Q or something that I, Megan, Mexican place that I can’t pronounce

Eric Hovind: Of course

Paul Taylor: The point is that it’s very circumstantial.

Eric Hovind: Yes

Paul Taylor: And what they’ve done is they’ve looked at the an they’ve got what they think is the answer and they’ve tried to find the evidence to fit it, which is not scientific research.

Eric Hovind: Not at all, and that’s the problem. They’re, again, they’re coming from their own presuppositions

Paul Taylor: That’s right

Eric Hovind: What they already believe. We’ve mentioned several times the book Dire Dragons, the new one by Vance Nelson which does a great job of covering dinosaurs throughout history with mankind. It’s impossible for a couple of reasons for an asteroid to kill them, because the asteroid, they say, was millions of years ago. The earth isn’t millions of years old. And second, they’ve lived with man, as is very very evident.

Paul Taylor: Time’s up

Eric Hovind: Alright, we’ve got more questions to talk about right after this.

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Paul Taylor: Welcome back, you’re watching Creation Today with me Paul Taylor and with Eric Hovind. We been just been talking about dinosaurs and

Eric Hovind: Fascinating topic

Paul Taylor: Absolutely, and we keep coming back to dinosaurs. It’s worth keep coming back to dinosaurs cause they’re so important

Eric Hovind: And it’s a question a lot of people have because, just about, probably about 95% of kids in America at least, grow up in the school system, learning about dinosaurs and the first thing they learn about dinosaurs is they lived, you can probably say it with me, millions of years ago, right? And that’s the problem, they’re learning to doubt God’s Word before they can read God’s Word. And that really is a serious issue, so I’m glad people keep brining it up and letting us talk about it. If you have more questions, of course, you can send them in to questions@creationtoday we’d love to try to answer those for ya.

Paul Taylor: And if you’ve got a question about dinosaurs please don’t think we’ve covered it and we’re not gonna talk about it again, there’s so much more to say on the subject so we just love talking abut that

Eric Hovind: Really is

Paul Taylor: Alright here’s another topic that I think is fairly common as well. Not as common as dinosaurs but it’s a good one to talk about. It comes from Steven, he says “What does the earth’s magnetic field do for life on earth and such?” That’s an important question to begin with. Then he goes on to say  “ Why is it getting weaker, and what are the effects of that?” Well the first, what’s the earth’s magnetic field doing for life on earth at the moment?

Eric Hovind: Well, a very very great question because it is extremely important that we have that magnetic field. When you study it in science learn that earth’s magnetic field is what deflects the solar rays and actually protects us from a lot of the harmful solar radiation, from the sun. And deflects it around earth.

Paul Taylor: Yes, and you can see that effect, can’t you? Have you, and, you, get the effects in something known as the aurora borealis.

Eric Hovind: I love those, absolutely gorgeous

Paul Taylor: Have you seen them?

Eric Hovind: I tell you, Let me tell a quick story real quick. I was in  North, or excuse me, South Dakota speaking one time, actually it was the first time for me to preach, ever, after being out of college. I’d just graduated from college and I was up there speaking and I remember doing an absolutely pitiful job of trying to present creation, cause I’m just sitting up there stumbling over my words. I didn’t have a clue what to say. But I had tried to get some of the information out and tell people this and I thought man, that was pathetic. So I went outside, it was nine o’clock at night, I go outside and I’m standing next to my vehicle getting ready to continue my trip home and, and I look up and all of a sudden I start seeing flashes of light.

Paul Taylor: Wow.

Eric Hovind: And I thought to myself, not knowing what it was at the time, I thought to myself, God’s coming back right now! [Laughter] I mean sheets of light were shooting up to a central point of the sky and I thought that’s the dead in Christ! Man, they’re going right now and I’m going next, hopefully. [Laughter] I remember standing next to my car watching the beauty of these lights thinking this is what it’s gonna look like when God returns and it was absolutely gorgeous. Absolutely incredible.

Paul Taylor: Yes, I mean I’ve seen it just once. I was asked to go speaking in the Shetland Islands and a lot of people don’t realize how far north of Scotland the Shetland Islands actually are, they’re the northernmost part of the British Isles. And they’re long way north, you have to fly quite a long way from Aberdeen airport out to

Eric Hovind: To get up there

Paul Taylor: And then the island itself is a lot bigger than people think. It’s actually a hundred miles long from one end to the other.

Eric Hovind: Do they have little horses there?

Paul Taylor: That’s right, the little Shetland ponies, yep.

Eric Hovind: Shetland ponies, yeah I’ve heard of those.

Paul Taylor: Yeah they’re wild all over the island, they’re fascinating little things

Eric Hovind: Are they really there?

Paul Taylor: They’re really wild

Eric Hovind: That’s really where they’re from?

Paul Taylor: That’s where they’re really from

Eric Hovind: Oh, wow, that’s cool.

Paul Taylor: They’re great, and there was one night I finished speaking in Lerwick the capital and then we had an hour’s drive across, you know there’s no street lights anywhere, there’s completely black. And then as we approached the house, my house where I was staying, there was this light over in the north, and over the ridge in the north and I said you know what’s that? Cause I’ just asked them , I said do you ever get the northern lights? He said yes, sometimes, we haven’t had them for quite a while. There was this glow there, and he said oh it must have been the moon., and I thought no it can’t be , the moon doesn’t shine from the north. We got over the ridge, and in fact it was green, these huge green curtains. But what it is, you were saying before how the solar rays are coming in

Eric Hovind: Yep

Paul Taylor: Harmful rays, and they’re being deflected by the magnetic field. They’re being deflected, and what you see with the aurora borealis is just where you’ve got this concentration going close to the magnetic north pole. And it’s a beautiful effect, but it’s just showing God’s provision and mercy.

Eric Hovind: I was gonna say, that is one incredible design, if you ask me. I’m really glad He decided to do that.

Paul Taylor: Yes, but it is true that that magnetic field doe seem to be getting weaker. Why it is, we’re not absolutely sure and the are plenty of people who have got theories. The secular theories about why it’s getting weaker could be genuine. You know, we don’t ignore secular science in creationist circles, it’s just we disagree with the timescales often

Eric Hovind: Correct

Paul Taylor: But they, you know the secular science talking about magnetic fields getting weaker and so on, they make sense. Maybe it’s to do with a generating property of iron in the earth’s core and that it’s cooling down some. But we don’t really know, cause I haven’t got a drill big enough to

Eric Hovind: To go all the way down to the center. You know it’s interesting, I have heard that since they’ve been measuring it in the last 150 years, it’s declined by 6 percent.

Paul Taylor: Yeah

Eric Hovind: And I think that’s really interesting . Actually what this ends up doing in the magnetic field because we can see it weakening , I mean if we go back in time, it used to be

Paul Taylor: Millions of years ago

Eric Hovind: Stronger, yeah, it used to be stronger millions of years ago. If there was that. But what you find is as you go back in time the earth’s magnetic field would have gotten obviously greater and greater and greater. Well you can only go back so far in time before that becomes a serious problem for life on earth. I’ve heard a variety of dates, but the most consistent one that I’ve heard is 25 million years. Earth’s magnetic field cannot be, or life on earth cannot be more than 25 million years old, because of earth’s magnetic field. It just wouldn’t work.

Paul Taylor: Yeah

Eric Hovind: So that puts the dinosaurs that they say died 70 million years ago, well where does that put them? It puts them having a real hard time on planet earth

Paul Taylor: Absolutely, yeah. Now I’ve heard some people say that we shouldn’t even use arguments like this because, you know, as creationists, we don’t believe that these processes did happen constantly over time, but I, the argument is perfectly legitimate in my eyes, because it come under proverbs 26, and it’s verse 6 or verse 5, one of the verses, one of the two verses I’m thinking of says “ Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.”

Eric Hovind: That’s verse 5, yeah.

Paul Taylor: That’s verse 5, that’s the point that we’re making. I always wanna say don’t answer a fool according to his folly lest you be like him.

Eric Hovind: Correct.

Paul Taylor: So we’re not doing that, we’re not ta, we’re not saying that we agree with that uniformitarian idea, but we’re saying that we’re taking that to show how ridiculous the idea of an old earth is.

Eric Hovind: And that’s the key, I mean kind of like when we, every time we use a presuppositional argument, and somebody says “hey, what about this contradiction in the Bible?” Well, we’re taking their worldview and showing them that it doesn’t make sense, saying well hold on, According to your worldview, what’s the matter with contradiction? I don’t believe there are any, but what’s wrong with that if there were?

Paul Taylor: It’s not that we’re accepting their worldview at all.

Eric Hovind: Correct.

Paul Taylor: I mean we, so we sometimes use arguments where we show, for example, the galaxies can’t be more than 10 million years old. That doesn’t mean that we’re saying that the galaxies are 10 million years old

Eric Hovind: Exactly

Paul Taylor: We’re simply showing that according to their ideas, it’s impossible for them to be more than 10 million year old. Of course it could be less than 10 million years

Eric Hovind: Of course

Paul Taylor: For example, six thousand years

Eric Hovind: That would be a great date. I love that date, six thousand. Cause it’s God’s word, which is the only

Paul Taylor: And that’s where we got it from. And that’s our presupposition

Eric Hovind: I love it. Oh, man. These things are so important and if you don’t understand the presupposition argument, by the way, on the age of the earth we did a Creation Minute on that recently

Paul Taylor: That’s right

Eric Hovind: Creation Minute number 6, and if you have an iPhone or an iPad, you can get the brand new Creation Minute app that is out, and enjoy that. The beauty of those Creation Minutes right there on your phone

Paul Taylor: Yes, make sure you get that, you’ll watch some superb videos, and you’ll be helping our ministry at the same time.

Eric Hovind: My kids have watched that over and over and over and they’re going we love this, they’re sharing it with their friends so I’m excited about our first app, and that we have more apps coming out soon. Ok, great question on the earth’s magnetic field. It is getting weaker, and that would cause a problem for evolution, but not for God and His Word. We’ll answer more right after this.

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Eric Hovind: Welcome back to Creation Today. We’ve been talking about dinosaurs, earth’s magnetic field, several different issues. By the way, if you want to get more information, of course you can always go and see the articles at Creationtoday.org. Or if you wanna get resources, you can go to thecreationstore.org and get some more information on those subjects. We’ve got another question here that come from Reuben. Reuben, thank you very much for writing in. He says, “Hello, I have a question that has been on my mind lately. What are aliens exactly? What are UFO’s, and life on Mars? Is all that true?” Well you now what aliens are so go ahead and describe them to us.

Paul Taylor: I know what life on Mars

Eric Hovind: Oh you do?

Paul Taylor: Was a great son by David Bowie [Laughter] Well that dates me.

Eric Hovind: I was gonna say, I’m gonna laugh, but I have no clue what that is other than an old song.

Paul Taylor: Before you were born, but, yeah, what are aliens? I mean the word alien means stranger, doesn’t it? And of course if you look in some versions of the Bible, it actually talks about us being aliens.

Eric Hovind: Yeah, we are the aliens that are here on earth

Paul Taylor: Yes. Cause we’re strangers in a

Eric Hovind: In a land, yep.

Paul Taylor: In a strange land..

Eric Hovind: And by the way, if you are not a stranger, an alien in this land yet, let me encourage you to repent of your sins and trust in Christ. Nothing is more important than that. That’s my little two cents to the people aren’t aliens yet. Then you can be an alien. And this world is not your home, you’re just passing through as the song says. One day we get to live and reign with Christ and I look forward to that.

Paul Taylor: Amen, that’s right. But what people think of when they use the word aliens of course is a popular media view. And they’re thinking therefore of people from outer space. Intelligence is from outer space. That’ what they’re talking about. And in particular they’re asking about whether such intelligences have been here on earth. The little green men, or, in fact, in many more modern ones they’re actually little gray men. The image that really sticks in a  lot of people’s minds these days is probably the Steven Spielberg TV series “Taken”. I don’t know whether you watch that

Eric Hovind: I haven’t gotten to see that yet.

Paul Taylor: It could well be that many of the viewers out there saw that. A very very lengthy series

Eric Hovind: I’m just thinking back to Men in Black, and the guy’s head opening up and the little alien being in there

Paul Taylor: Oh that, I love that [Laughter] A silly film. But the “Taken” film the “Taken” series was a long series of TV programs, and it was purported to be based on truth. Now, it’s very difficult to sort of get the definitions right here. The events mentioned in the TV series were, how can we put this, “actual events”, in inverted commas, and they sort of tied together many of the famous reports about aliens. Now, please don’t misunderstand me, I’m not saying that I believe in aliens. We’ll talk about what the Bible says about aliens in a minute. There are no extraterrestrial people among us. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that there are famous accounts that people have had, that are being reported of people supposedly seeing these things, and that particular TV series wove all these in. And in such a way, that they sort of gave an authenticity. And there are many people now, who think almost as if that was a documentary series.

Eric Hovind: Really?

Paul Taylor: I really think that people have got that attitude. You know, it’s a documentary series. Like that other documentary series that was on about those small people with large hairy feet traveling across a mountain range and looking for a ring.

Eric Hovind: Oh, I know what you’re taking about. Lord of the Rings.

Paul Taylor: That’s right.

Eric Hovind: Took me a second there. So what’s the truth about the aliens? Ok what does the Bible say about aliens? I mean what other than we are aliens, we’re just passing through, this world is not our home.

Paul Taylor:

Well, the Bible makes it very clear that the earth is the center of man’s, of God’s intentions. It’s the earth that God formed to be inhabited

Eric Hovind: Okay

Paul Taylor: That’s what we read in Isaiah. And you know in many ways, theologically it would be very difficult to believe in aliens elsewhere

Eric Hovind: It would

Paul Taylor: I mean how could you do so?  How could you believe that God had made the universe, and that the universe was destroyed if you like, marred by the sin of Adam, and that affects the whole universe, so it affects the alien races who presumably didn’t sin at that particular point. So it doesn’t make sense. But to the evolutionist it makes sense, because they believe life is evolved by chance. If it’s evolved by chance on earth, then it could’ve evolved by chance anywhere in the universe. So it really is an argument about creation and evolution.

Eric Hovind: And it comes down to really proper understanding of the Bible, when the Bible says Eve is the mother of all living, Christ died once for all, I think that lends credibility. Again, to the idea of no, there is no life on other planets. So there’s no extraterrestrial life out there. We are it, we are who God made.

Paul Taylor: Yes, and to add to that there’s the question asked about what are UFO’s? And..

Eric Hovind: I know what they are. Without a doubt, and I know this.

Paul Taylor: Go on.

Eric Hovind: UFO’s are unidentified flying objects. Every single time.

Paul Taylor: That’s right, and of course that’s all that they are, but again in the popular imagination we’re talking about the spaceships of these aliens there supposed to travel in

Eric Hovind: Correct

Paul Taylor: Now the real question then is, people claim to have seen these things. And claim to, in some cases to have been abducted by aliens. Now in the majority of cases people have either made it up, or they have got mistaken. Most sightings of UFO’s for example are really sightings of the planet Venus. Many in the past have been other things, panes, different sorts of things, weather balloons even.  But, there’s a small number of cases where people have claimed to been abducted by aliens, and there doesn’t seem to be any other explanation. Something has happened. Now given that we don’t believe that people have come from outer space, there must be some other explanation. And a gentleman by the name of Gary Bates

Eric Hovind: Yes

Paul Taylor: Who is CEO for Creation Ministries International in the United States has written a very important book called Alien Intrusion, which goes into this. He talks about like this in his book, doesn’t he?

Eric Hovind: Well, I don’t know about the book. If you don’t like the book you can always do what I did and watch the DVDs. [laughter] So, you can check out Gary’s DVD, which is available, and covers a lot of great stuff. And he goes into some of the what could these be? I mean, people are reporting experiences, what exactly are they experiencing? And so I’ve heard a number of things, from it being demonic activity to being super secretive government intelligence things that they’re doing and things like that. But what does Gary come down with all of this

Paul Taylor: We Gary catalogs the fact that no evangelical, or born-again Christian has ever been involved in the abductions, so this is a common theme. But there are some people who have been on the periphery of the church who’ve know something of these, not really saved but on the periphery. And in some cases the abductions have started to take place on these people cause they’ve been messing around with these ideas, and they’ve called out on the name of Jesus and everything has stopped.

Eric Hovind: Whoa.

Paul Taylor: The abduction has ceased, and it really does indicate that these particular small number of cases are of demonic activities

Eric Hovind: Yeah

Paul Taylor: And not aliens from outer spaces. And in fact, Gary says that the same sort of visitations is in the Middle Ages when people were abducted by fairies or goblins or whatever. It’s just in a new guise.

Eric Hovind: Wow. Well it’s a very fascinating topic, and it’s easy to get deep into that topic real quick. And to get into all that conspiracy stuff that’s out there, the UFO’s and the aliens, and government, and demonic activity. I’m, I right now side on the idea of it was probably, it’s probably demonic activity.

Paul Taylor: I think that makes a lot of sense. And it just points out the fact that we should not be involved in such things.

Eric Hovind: Yeah

Paul Taylor: Those are sort of things we need to run from.

Eric Hovind: Be simple concerning evil as the Bible says. Well that is our show, we wanna thank you guys for watching. Of course you can check us out at creationtoday.org, and if you have questions, send them into [email protected].

Paul Taylor: You can Twitter us, remember? @CreationToday. And Facebook, Facebook.com/creationtoday. Won’t you tune into each episode to make sure that we’ve answered your question. The programs are archived online at creationtoday.org.

Eric Hovind: This has been a production of God Quest Ministries. And we wanna thank you guys so much for joining us today. God bless.